{"id":63069,"date":"2022-08-18T10:33:52","date_gmt":"2022-08-18T08:33:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ubfc.fr\/?p=63069"},"modified":"2022-08-18T10:45:25","modified_gmt":"2022-08-18T08:45:25","slug":"dou-viennent-les-bois-de-notre-dame-les-scientifiques-menent-lenquete","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ubfc.fr\/en\/dou-viennent-les-bois-de-notre-dame-les-scientifiques-menent-lenquete\/","title":{"rendered":"D\u2019o\u00f9 viennent les bois de Notre-Dame ? Les scientifiques m\u00e8nent l\u2019enqu\u00eate"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"63069\" class=\"elementor elementor-63069\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-d241476 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"d241476\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-6d152de\" data-id=\"6d152de\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-097a199 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"097a199\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/alexa-dufraisse-1360742\">Alexa Dufraisse<\/a>, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/museum-national-dhistoire-naturelle-mnhn-2191\">Mus\u00e9um national d\u2019histoire naturelle (MNHN)<\/a><\/em>; <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/anna-imbert-stulc-1361967\">Anna Imbert Stulc<\/a>, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/museum-national-dhistoire-naturelle-mnhn-2191\">Mus\u00e9um national d\u2019histoire naturelle (MNHN)<\/a><\/em>; <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/emmanuel-garnier-1300789\">Emmanuel Garnier<\/a>, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/universite-de-franche-comte-ubfc-2353\">Universit\u00e9 de Franche-Comt\u00e9 \u2013 UBFC<\/a><\/em> et <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/jean-luc-dupouey-1362120\">Jean-Luc Dupouey<\/a>, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/inrae-2182\">Inrae<\/a><\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-5767535 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"5767535\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-32d5554\" data-id=\"32d5554\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-970409c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"970409c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><em>Catastrophe patrimoniale, l&#8217;incendie de Notre-Dame en 2019 permet aussi d\u2019accro\u00eetre nos connaissances : les d\u00e9bris de la c\u00e9l\u00e9brissime cath\u00e9drale sont autant de pr\u00e9cieux t\u00e9moins du pass\u00e9 ! Cette s\u00e9rie suit le chantier scientifique de Notre-Dame, o\u00f9 bois carbonis\u00e9s et pi\u00e8ces en m\u00e9tal r\u00e9v\u00e8lent leurs secrets. Apr\u00e8s un premier \u00e9pisode o\u00f9 l\u2019on <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/quand-la-charpente-de-notre-dame-nous-renseigne-sur-la-meteo-medievale-etudier-la-charpente-de-notre-dame-pour-connaitre-la-meteo-medievale-184990\">faisait parler la charpente<\/a>, on se demande d\u2019o\u00f9 viennent les bois de la charpente de la cath\u00e9drale.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-22754cb elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"22754cb\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-83e1663\" data-id=\"83e1663\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ad51f07 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ad51f07\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em>\u00a0<\/em>Bien qu&#8217;en 2022, on peut trouver difficile de se procurer des mat\u00e9riaux de construction dont le prix ne cesse de grimper, nous sommes loin d&#8217;imaginer le contexte \u00e9conomique des b\u00e2tisseurs au temps des cath\u00e9drales.<\/p><p>Les projets d&#8217;envergure que sont les cath\u00e9drales gothiques mobilisaient des ressources humaines et \u00e9conomiques de tout un territoire, s&#8217;\u00e9talaient sur des si\u00e8cles ; ils t\u00e9moignent d&#8217;une organisation complexe pourtant peu connue de nos jours.<\/p><p>Un des exemples les plus embl\u00e9matiques est la cath\u00e9drale de Notre-Dame de Paris. Alors qu&#8217;elle est devenue un symbole du pays, on ignore presque tout de la gestion et de l&#8217;alimentation en bois du chantier de l&#8217;\u00e9poque. Une histoire qui a bien failli dispara\u00eetre lors de l&#8217;incendie du 15 avril 2019, quand la charpente m\u00e9di\u00e9vale vieille de plus de 800 ans s&#8217;est effondr\u00e9e.<\/p><p>Les poutres calcin\u00e9es ne pouvant pas \u00eatre r\u00e9utilis\u00e9es pour la reconstruction du monument, elles ont \u00e9t\u00e9 mises \u00e0 disposition de la communaut\u00e9 scientifique et sont devenues une source d&#8217;information exceptionnelle, une v\u00e9ritable archive mat\u00e9rielle et patrimoniale.<\/p><p>Une <a href=\"https:\/\/www.notre-dame.science\/gt-bois-membres\/\">\u00e9quipe<\/a> de pr\u00e8s de 70 personnes s&#8217;est constitu\u00e9e pour en d\u00e9voiler les secrets.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-c2d4ebf elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"c2d4ebf\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-87ed421\" data-id=\"87ed421\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-11e37d6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"11e37d6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-f0a25f9 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"f0a25f9\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-f2d230c\" data-id=\"f2d230c\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ba7314e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ba7314e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2>Un chantier \u00e9conomique exceptionnel<\/h2><p>Les poutres calcin\u00e9es pourraient notamment \u00e9clairer le myst\u00e8re de la provenance g\u00e9ographique des bois employ\u00e9s dans la construction de la charpente.<\/p><p>Il est presque certain qu&#8217;ils ont des sources multiples, mais jusqu&#8217;\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, les <a href=\"https:\/\/creaah.cnrs.fr\/team\/durand-aline\/\">historiens<\/a> de notre <a href=\"https:\/\/chrono-environnement.univ-fcomte.fr\/spip.php?page=perso&amp;nom=GARNIER&amp;prenom=Emmanuel\">groupe<\/a> de <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irht.cnrs.fr\/fr\/annuaire\/bourlet-caroline\">travail<\/a> n&#8217;ont pas pu apporter de r\u00e9ponse pr\u00e9cise \u00e0 cette question, de nombreuses archives ayant disparu au cours de temps.<\/p><figure class=\"align-center \"><figure style=\"width: 463px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/476323\/original\/file-20220727-1351-z8re3r.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/476323\/original\/file-20220727-1351-z8re3r.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=546&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/476323\/original\/file-20220727-1351-z8re3r.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=546&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/476323\/original\/file-20220727-1351-z8re3r.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=546&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/476323\/original\/file-20220727-1351-z8re3r.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=687&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/476323\/original\/file-20220727-1351-z8re3r.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=687&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/476323\/original\/file-20220727-1351-z8re3r.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=687&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"Gravure montrant un train de flottage du bois\" width=\"463\" height=\"421\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gravure montrant un train de bois extrait de l\u2019Encyclop\u00e9die M\u00e9thodique Arts et M\u00e9tiers M\u00e9caniques, 1784. Encyclop\u00e9die M\u00e9thodique Arts et M\u00e9tiers M\u00e9caniques \/ Burgondiart<\/figcaption><\/figure><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure><p>Toutefois, des pistes existent. On peut s&#8217;inspirer de l&#8217;anecdote de l&#8217;abb\u00e9 Suger \u00e0 la recherche \u2013 apparemment d\u00e9s\u00e9sp\u00e9r\u00e9e \u2013 de douze poutres pour le chevet de la cath\u00e9drale Saint-Denis, qu&#8217;il esp\u00e9rait trouver dans la for\u00eat d&#8217;Yvelines, qui appartenait alors \u00e0 l&#8217;abbaye. Ainsi, les bois de Notre-Dame auraient pu \u00eatre coup\u00e9s dans les for\u00eats du dioc\u00e8se et du chapitre cath\u00e9dral, principalement situ\u00e9es en \u00cele-de-France\u2026<\/p><p>D&#8217;autres hypoth\u00e8ses sont envisageables. Paris, au milieu du bassin de la Seine, b\u00e9n\u00e9ficie en effet d&#8217;un r\u00e9seau fluvial qui facilite le transport des marchandises et notamment du bois (combustible ou peut-\u00eatre destin\u00e9 \u00e0 l&#8217;architecture).<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-2f9380d elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"2f9380d\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-e7beaa6\" data-id=\"e7beaa6\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-50b8ead elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"50b8ead\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-f9c980b elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"f9c980b\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-477c567\" data-id=\"477c567\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-aaf71c8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"aaf71c8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2>L&#8217;hypoth\u00e8se du flottage du bois<\/h2><p>Les ports autour de l&#8217;\u00cele de la Cit\u00e9 \u00e9taient aliment\u00e9s par bateau ou par <a href=\"https:\/\/www.histoires-de-paris.fr\/flottage-de-bois\/\">flottage du bois<\/a>, de l&#8217;amont ou de l&#8217;aval de la m\u00e9tropole, par l&#8217;Oise, la Seine, voire l\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/burgondiart.wordpress.com\/2015\/04\/25\/quand-les-parisiens-se-chauffaient-au-bois-du-morvan-la-tradition-du-flottage-du-bois\/\">Yonne<\/a>.<\/p><p>[<em>Pr\u00e8s de 70 000 lecteurs font confiance \u00e0 la newsletter de The Conversation pour mieux comprendre les grands enjeux du monde<\/em>. <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/fr\/newsletters\/la-newsletter-quotidienne-5?utm_source=inline-70ksignup\">Abonnez-vous aujourd\u2019hui<\/a>]<\/p><p>Le flottage semble bien implant\u00e9 depuis le XIVe si\u00e8cle, comme en attestent certains registres \u2013 par exemple, celui du Coll\u00e8ge des Bernardins, qui fut fond\u00e9 en 1348 \u00e0 deux pas de la cath\u00e9drale de Notre-Dame et b\u00e2ti avec du <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/24566255\">bois achet\u00e9 aupr\u00e8s des marchands<\/a> ; il y a \u00e9galement des traces \u00e9crites de flottage sur la Seine et sur l&#8217;Oise <a href=\"http:\/\/opac.regesta-imperii.de\/id\/2583478\">d\u00e8s le XIIIe si\u00e8cle<\/a>\u2026 c&#8217;est-\u00e0-dire au moment de la construction de la charpente de Notre-Dame.<\/p><p>Malheureusement, les preuves \u00e9crites de march\u00e9 ou de flottage du bois manquent concernant les bois de la charpente de Notre-Dame.<\/p><figure class=\"align-center \"><figure style=\"width: 474px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474111\/original\/file-20220714-32145-i1b7wc.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474111\/original\/file-20220714-32145-i1b7wc.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=395&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474111\/original\/file-20220714-32145-i1b7wc.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=395&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474111\/original\/file-20220714-32145-i1b7wc.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=395&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474111\/original\/file-20220714-32145-i1b7wc.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=496&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474111\/original\/file-20220714-32145-i1b7wc.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=496&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474111\/original\/file-20220714-32145-i1b7wc.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=496&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"\" width=\"474\" height=\"312\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Trous de flottage dans un entrait du XIIIe si\u00e8cle. Olivier Girardclos, Jean-Yves Hunot<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/figure><p>Lors de l&#8217;inventaire des bois calcin\u00e9s et de leur description arch\u00e9ologique, les <a href=\"https:\/\/creaah.cnrs.fr\/profiles\/hunot-jean-yves\/\">arch\u00e9ologues<\/a> et <a href=\"https:\/\/chrono-environnement.univ-fcomte.fr\/spip.php?page=perso&amp;nom=GIRARDCLOS&amp;prenom=Olivier\">dendroarch\u00e9ologues<\/a> ont rep\u00e9r\u00e9 sur un des \u00abentraits\u00bb du XIII<sup>e<\/sup> si\u00e8cle un trou destin\u00e9 \u00e0 faire passer un cordage pour l&#8217;assemblage de trains de flottage : une preuve indiscutable que les troncs peuvent venir de tout le bassin de la Seine.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-95729b3 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"95729b3\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-bcc724f\" data-id=\"bcc724f\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4747620 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4747620\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2>Comparer les croissances des arbres<\/h2><p>Il existe plusieurs pistes pour remonter \u00e0 l&#8217;origine g\u00e9ographique des bois de la charpente de Notre-Dame. Notre \u00e9quipe est ainsi en train de constituer un \u00abr\u00e9f\u00e9rentiel de dendroprovenance\u00bb, in\u00e9dit et collectif : nous pr\u00e9levons bois et sols dans des for\u00eats de ch\u00eanes couvrant le bassin de la Seine afin de comparer le r\u00e9f\u00e9rentiel aux donn\u00e9es qui seront acquises sur les bois de Notre-Dame.<\/p><p>La premi\u00e8re piste pour mieux d\u00e9limiter les provenances g\u00e9ographiques des bois, les analyses de \u00ab<a href=\"https:\/\/sstinrap.hypotheses.org\/5500\">dendroprovenance<\/a>\u00bb s&#8217;appuient sur l&#8217;anatomie du bois.<\/p><p>En effet, les arbres enregistrent l&#8217;environnement dans lequel ils se d\u00e9veloppent. Par exemple, les cernes, anneaux concentriques form\u00e9s chaque ann\u00e9e en milieu temp\u00e9r\u00e9, repr\u00e9sentent <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/la-dendrochronologie-lart-de-lire-dans-les-cernes-des-arbres-62394\">un indicateur des conditions de croissance de l&#8217;arbre ou encore du climat<\/a>. Leur largeur varie d&#8217;une ann\u00e9e sur l&#8217;autre en fonction de l&#8217;arbre, mais aussi des conditions environnementales locales et r\u00e9gionales. Ainsi, des arbres poussant dans une m\u00eame r\u00e9gion pr\u00e9sentent des croissances qui se ressemblent.<\/p><p>Cette approche de dendroprovenance, fond\u00e9e sur des corr\u00e9lations statistiques, d\u00e9pend donc fortement de la disponibilit\u00e9 de \u00abr\u00e9f\u00e9rentiels dendrochronologiques\u00bb, qui permettent de relier les observations \u00e0 des localisations dans le temps et l&#8217;espace.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-d40a3af elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"d40a3af\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-efa8f2d\" data-id=\"efa8f2d\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-de97e94 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"de97e94\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2>L\u2019impact de la carbonisation sur les bois<\/h2><p>Afin de compl\u00e9ter cette approche, on s&#8217;int\u00e9resse aux \u00e9l\u00e9ments chimiques pr\u00e9sents dans le bois, et notamment aux <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.openedition.org\/techne\/1090\">isotopes du strontium<\/a>, couramment utilis\u00e9s en arch\u00e9ologie pour \u00e9tudier l\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/www.futura-sciences.com\/sciences\/breves\/archeologie-archeologie-cette-nouvelle-methode-pourrait-eclairer-histoire-humaine-2920\/\">histoire des populations humaines<\/a>.<\/p><p>R\u00e9cemment appliqu\u00e9e \u00e0 des <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.jas.2017.09.005\">bois arch\u00e9ologiques issus d&#8217;\u00e9paves<\/a>, cette approche a permis de discriminer des <a href=\"http:\/\/bddc.liec.univ-lorraine.fr\/cv\/POSZWA%20A.htm\">bois ayant pouss\u00e9 sur des substrats calcaires de ceux ayant pouss\u00e9s sur des sols silicat\u00e9s<\/a>.<\/p><p>Toutefois, les bois de Notre-Dame sont carbonis\u00e9s, pour certains en p\u00e9riph\u00e9rie, pour d&#8217;autres jusqu&#8217;au centre. Or, la carbonisation entra\u00eene des modifications anatomiques, chimiques et isotopiques qui d\u00e9pendent notamment de la dur\u00e9e d&#8217;exposition, des temp\u00e9ratures atteintes, de la pr\u00e9sence d&#8217;oxyg\u00e8ne. Des tests de carbonisation <a href=\"https:\/\/archeozoo-archeobota.mnhn.fr\/fr\/annuaire\/alexa-dufraisse-8814\">ont \u00e9t\u00e9 men\u00e9s<\/a> afin de d\u00e9terminer si les rapports isotopiques du strontium dans le bois avant et apr\u00e8s carbonisation \u00e9taient conserv\u00e9s.<\/p><p>Ces exp\u00e9riences de laboratoire ont montr\u00e9 que les rapports isotopiques ne sont pas modifi\u00e9s, ce qui va nous permettre d&#8217;appliquer cette approche aux bois de Notre-Dame.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-37024c8 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"37024c8\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-431f3a1\" data-id=\"431f3a1\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-27550fa elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"27550fa\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2>Une approche scientifique in\u00e9dite<\/h2><p>Le bassin de la Seine \u00e9tant majoritairement repr\u00e9sent\u00e9 par des roches calcaires, nous avons ajout\u00e9 un indicateur suppl\u00e9mentaire aux approches de largeurs de cerne et de compositions isotopiques du strontium : la composition chimique des bois de Notre-Dame.<\/p><p>Cette approche est totalement in\u00e9dite sur des bois arch\u00e9ologiques, mais les \u00e9l\u00e9ments majeurs comme le calcium, le potassium, ou le fer sont d\u00e9j\u00e0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www6.nancy.inrae.fr\/eef\/Pages-Personnelles\/Stephane-Ponton\">utilis\u00e9s<\/a>, par exemple pour appr\u00e9hender l\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.scitotenv.2019.136148\">\u00e9volution de la fertilit\u00e9 des sols<\/a> : des min\u00e9raux dissous dans le sol sont absorb\u00e9s par le syst\u00e8me racinaire (en fonction de l&#8217;acidit\u00e9 du sol), transport\u00e9s par les vaisseaux conducteurs de la s\u00e8ve vers le tronc, les branches et les feuilles et stock\u00e9s dans les cellules. La v\u00e9g\u00e9tation qui a pouss\u00e9 sur un sol calcaire est plus riche en calcium que celle qui a pouss\u00e9 sur des sables ; et la proportion entre deux \u00e9l\u00e9ments, par exemple celle du calcium par rapport au mangan\u00e8se, permet de discriminer si l&#8217;arbre a pouss\u00e9 sur un sol acide ou basique.<\/p><p>L\u00e0 encore, nos exp\u00e9riences permettent de v\u00e9rifier que la composition \u00e9l\u00e9mentaire du bois est un indicateur fiable sur des bois carbonis\u00e9s. Bonne nouvelle, non seulement les signatures sont conserv\u00e9es mais elles sont m\u00eame amplifi\u00e9es par la carbonisation!<\/p><p>Les <a href=\"https:\/\/lejournal.cnrs.fr\/billets\/les-terres-rares-et-apres\">terres rares<\/a>, particuli\u00e8rement l&#8217;yttrium et les lanthanides, peuvent \u00e9galement constituer une empreinte digitale du sol et donc \u00eatre <a href=\"https:\/\/www.unipa.it\/persone\/docenti\/s\/filippo.saiano\">utilis\u00e9s<\/a> comme <a href=\"https:\/\/enseignants.inrap.fr\/media\/les-sciences-de-larcheologie-sylvie-coubray-anthracologue-vstf-65\">traceurs g\u00e9ographiques compl\u00e9mentaires<\/a>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-609f45a elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"609f45a\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-d00d81f\" data-id=\"d00d81f\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6016504 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6016504\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2>Constituer un r\u00e9f\u00e9rentiel de dendroprovenance<\/h2><p>C&#8217;est en combinant ces diff\u00e9rentes approches que l&#8217;on peut cr\u00e9er notre \u00abr\u00e9f\u00e9rentiel de dendroprovenance\u00bb et le comparer aux donn\u00e9es des bois de Notre-Dame.<\/p><figure class=\"align-center \"><figure style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474115\/original\/file-20220714-32176-lfmu98.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474115\/original\/file-20220714-32176-lfmu98.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=282&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474115\/original\/file-20220714-32176-lfmu98.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=282&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474115\/original\/file-20220714-32176-lfmu98.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=282&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474115\/original\/file-20220714-32176-lfmu98.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=355&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474115\/original\/file-20220714-32176-lfmu98.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=355&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/474115\/original\/file-20220714-32176-lfmu98.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=355&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"282\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">R\u00e9f\u00e9rentiel de dendroprovenance multi-indicateurs. (a) for\u00eats de ch\u00eanes s\u00e9lectionn\u00e9es poussant sur des roches et sols constrast\u00e9s (b) pr\u00e9l\u00e8vements de sols (c) caract\u00e9risation des peuplements forestiers (relev\u00e9 floristique, mesures des diam\u00e8tres et hauteurs des arbres (d) pr\u00e9l\u00e8vements de carottes de bois pour mesurer les cernes et analyser la composition chimique et isotopique.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/figure><p>En parall\u00e8le, l&#8217;\u00e9quipe des historiens continue \u00e0 d\u00e9pouiller les archives des XII<sup>e<\/sup> et XIII<sup>e<\/sup> si\u00e8cles et recensent les mentions de l&#8217;\u00e9conomie de bois, de la gestion des for\u00eats, ainsi que les nombreux \u00e9v\u00e9nements climatiques enregistr\u00e9s par les chroniques m\u00e9di\u00e9vales d&#8217;\u00cele-de-France.<\/p><p>Nous esp\u00e9rons qu&#8217;\u00e0 la crois\u00e9e des chemins des donn\u00e9es historiques, bioarch\u00e9ologiques et environnementales, le secret de l&#8217;origine des bois de Notre-Dame sera perc\u00e9 et qu&#8217;ils contribueront \u00e0 am\u00e9liorer les connaissances sur l&#8217;organisation du chantier de Notre-Dame de Paris.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-ed7cf0c elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"ed7cf0c\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-f15e44b\" data-id=\"f15e44b\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-15aaa2d elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"15aaa2d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-1496467 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"1496467\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-b6d7a24\" data-id=\"b6d7a24\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bb46f0d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"bb46f0d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u00a0<\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/alexa-dufraisse-1360742\">Alexa Dufraisse<\/a>, Directrice de recherche CNRS en arch\u00e9obotanique, sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9e en dendro-anthracologie et en anthraco-isotopie, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/museum-national-dhistoire-naturelle-mnhn-2191\">Mus\u00e9um national d\u2019histoire naturelle (MNHN)<\/a><\/em>; <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/anna-imbert-stulc-1361967\">Anna Imbert Stulc<\/a>, \u00e9tudiante en th\u00e8se en bioarch\u00e9ologie, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/museum-national-dhistoire-naturelle-mnhn-2191\">Mus\u00e9um national d\u2019histoire naturelle (MNHN)<\/a><\/em>; <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/emmanuel-garnier-1300789\">Emmanuel Garnier<\/a>, Directeur de recherche CNRS historien du climat et des catastrophes, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/universite-de-franche-comte-ubfc-2353\">Universit\u00e9 de Franche-Comt\u00e9 \u2013 UBFC<\/a><\/em> et <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/jean-luc-dupouey-1362120\">Jean-Luc Dupouey<\/a>, chercheur en \u00e9cologie foresti\u00e8re, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/inrae-2182\">Inrae<\/a><\/em><\/p><p>Cet article est republi\u00e9 \u00e0 partir de <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\">The Conversation<\/a> sous licence Creative Commons. Lire l\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/dou-viennent-les-bois-de-notre-dame-les-scientifiques-menent-lenquete-185746\">article original<\/a>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alexa Dufraisse, Mus\u00e9um national d\u2019histoire naturelle (MNHN); Anna Imbert Stulc, Mus\u00e9um national d\u2019histoire naturelle (MNHN); Emmanuel Garnier, Universit\u00e9 de Franche-Comt\u00e9 \u2013 UBFC et Jean-Luc Dupouey, Inrae Catastrophe patrimoniale, l&#8217;incendie de Notre-Dame en 2019 permet aussi d\u2019accro\u00eetre nos connaissances : les d\u00e9bris de la c\u00e9l\u00e9brissime cath\u00e9drale sont autant de pr\u00e9cieux t\u00e9moins du pass\u00e9 ! 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